but another poll, arg had romney up one. there's a new poll out today, came out today, survey usa has obama up one, 45% to 44% in ohio. >> i guess it depends on how many democrats you poll and how many republicans. >> that's true too. >> and that's why the debate is so important. because that deals with the energy and enthusiasm of your political base and that gets the turnout. if democrats are feeling muted and down beat after the debate, they might not be as fired out to go out and get their friends and rent a van and go to the polling place. the same thing with the republicans on the flip side. the enthusiasm and turnout on the base is going to matter in ohio. >> eamon, thank you. >> you bet. >> okay. are you a nationals fan? >> i'm -- i'm not. i'm not a baseball guy. so, but they're having a good year down here and redskins are doing all right too. >> yeah, that's true. a programming note, cnbc's coverage of the vice presidential debate starts tomorrow at 7:00 p.m. eastern time. are you part of this? >> i am. carl and i